A lot has changed for the Seiko Sumo over the past several years. A new generation of Sumo models were released in 2019 (Generation 3) bringing some new simple changes for this dive watch.
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Seiko Sumo Specs
Case Dimensions: 45mm x 52.6mm x 13.5mm | Lug Width: 20mm |
Crystal: Sapphire Crystal (updated from Hardlex) | Lume: Seiko Lumibrite on hands, markers/indices, and unidirectional bezel Pip |
Power Reserve: 70 hour power reserve (updated from 50) | Movement: 6R35 (updated from 6R15) |
In light of many of these new changes, I felt compelled to return to this review. Many of the observations and assessments are still valid and applicable for those who are in the market for this humble and overlooked diver’s watch from Japan. And that’s specifically what I wanted to address with this update – the fact that the Sumo is still overlooked after all these years among Seiko watches.
The Sumo has always been forgotten in place of other divers like the Seiko Turtle or even the Seiko 5KX models. But I can’t help but wonder “why?” – the Seiko Sumo was the first dive watch I ever purchased and it absolutely set the bar far too high for other dive watches. It’s a little dressy with a mix of polished and non-polished stainless surfaces. But it’s also a very large, comfortable, and robust stainless steel dive watch with 200m water resistance, screw down crown, and screw down case back. So while I’m certainly biased, it is a bit strange that it’s never really taken off.
But I have two theories on why this has never been a popular timepiece.
Why Isn’t the Seiko Prospex Sumo Popular? Two Theories.
Unlike the Seiko Turtle, Samurai, 5KX models, 62mas, Tuna, and many more Seiko Prospex models, the Sumo isn’t based on a historical vintage design. It was initially released in 2007 (generation 1) with 2015 seeing the release of the generation 2 versions.
While there were no real changes between Gen 1 and Gen 2, Generation 3 (2019) has certainly brought the most changes. But from its introduction, it’s operated in a price point area of being a bit more expensive than “affordable” divers and a bit more affordable than more expensive divers like the Marinemaster.
So psychologically, I think there just may not be many consumers who are looking at that true mid-range diver market. They’re either looking for an “affordable” diver around $200 – $400 or they’re in the $1000+ market. And being priced anywhere from $600 – $800, the Sumo just doesn’t seem to fit in with trends around the watch community’s budget habits.
Commonly Asked Questions About The Seiko Sumo
Which Seiko is the sumo?
The Seiko Sumo can refer to many different watches all considered part of the “Sumo” series. Among the three generations, the most recent model reference numbers are: SPB101J1 and SPB103J1. Discounted models include SBDC033 (Blumo) and SBDC001.
What is the weight of the Seiko sumo?
188g on bracelet according to Seiko.
What is the difference between the Seiko sumo and the other Seiko models?
The Seiko Sumo is a distinctly separate case shape and design than other Seiko Prospex diver models. The case dimensions in particular set it apart from the rest as well as the bezel.
Is Seiko Sumo discontinued?
No – the 3rd Generation models were released in 2019. However the generation 1 (2007) and generation 2 (2015) models are discontinued since the newer generation pieces are now available.
The other issue with the Seiko Sumo is the sizing. My wrist size is under 7 inches in diameter. A 45mm watch shouldn’t be comfortable – but the Sumo is! I think the spec sizing on paper generally turns people away. But I’d certainly encourage everyone to still try it on before you buy it just in case or buy from a retailer that has a good return policy.
With all that said, my time with the Seiko Sumo represented very formative years for me as a watch collector. It helped me define what I did and didn’t like about watch collecting and it’s always going to hold a special place in my horological heart. That said, here’s to hoping that one day this watch gets the love it deserves – until then, I hope everyone enjoys the Haiku Review below.
Preface: so after episode 71 of the podcast where we talked about watch writing and horology photography, I wanted to try something different. In an effort to curb my normal foul-mouthed verbosity (and to create a more efficient review free of fluff) I’m writing a Seiko Sumo review with Haikus. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below – this was actually a lot of fun to work on.
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First diver purchased
Two years ago for a cruise –
Expectations? None
Not too much online
And not too many reviews
But something called me
Perhaps the dial
Or it could have been the case
– something connected
Ordered the sumo
– sized the bracelet – put it on.
I never looked back.
The Case:
Though wide, case curves well
sits comfortably on wrist –
Brushed and polished steel
Long sweeping curves stretch –
connect lug tip to lug tip
– Bold but subtle case
Though the case is big
It by no means is bulky
– Balance from soft curves
Case surrounds bezel
Grips exposed at 6 & 12 –
Not common, but fun.
The case curvature
with the brushed and polished steel
– A dressy diver
The Dial:
Blue – blue – wide hue range
Blumo hue varies in lights
One watch – many sides
Applied round markers –
Bold matte lume wrapped in polish
– Legibility
White details contrast
leverage both light and dark
– Legibility
Beveled chapter ring
Creates depth and eye-intrigue
– Legibility
The Bracelet:
Solid steel endlinks
Tops are brushed – sides are polished
Dress/Tool – in between
Lug width an issue
Some folks feel it is too small
Small bracelet – Big watch
But dress and tool meet
When bold features are balanced
Small bracelet – Big watch
Lug to lug profile
Gives wrist presence and comfort
But strap pairings? Tough
Space from case to lugs
too large so most straps can’t fill –
Watch can look bucktoothed
NATOs are best choice
Other than stock bracelet, though-
no fault in either
The Movement:
The 6R15
Date wheel – 23 jewels
50 hour reserve
Accurate and true
Hand-wind and automatic
“Seiko, use it more.”
Final Thoughts
One watch – many sides
Dress diver meets tool diver
– Often overlooked
With Seiko divers
SKX – turtle – big names
Sumo gets sidelined
Key quality here –
Strange among Seiko divers
-where dress and tool meet
Seiko divers are
core utility drivers
-but not the Sumo
Easy to pass by
The Seiko sumo could be
But a gem to miss
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Standard MSRP for the Seiko Sumo has fluctuated a lot recently, especially with the addition of the new Gen 3 models. But check out the popular Seiko Sumo models below – a lot of fun dial colors for a Seiko Diver that doesn’t get enough love from the watch community.
Co-Founder and Senior Editor
Kaz has been collecting watches since 2015, but he’s been fascinated by product design, the Collector’s psychology, and brand marketing his whole life. While sharing the same strong fondness for all things horologically-affordable as Mike (his TBWS partner in crime), Kaz’s collection niche is also focused on vintage Soviet watches as well as watches that feature a unique, but well-designed quirk or visual hook.
This is so good Kas
So much fun to read out loud.
I need a Sumo now.
Yah so that’s fucking hard and I sound like a third grader. Great picture.
Haha it was crazy difficult to have it not sound like I was in grade-school! Glad you enjoyed the review, man – I want to do more of these. And I freaking love photographing the Seiko sumo – so much fun
i think you overlooked one of the biggest issues a lot of guys had with the Sumo. They loved almost everything about the watch but the 20mm bracelet drove a lot of guys nuts. Personally, I have a normal to large wrist and I just didn’t see the issue. The lug width was 20 but the first link overextended to probably 22mm. I’m any case, I thought the stock bracelet was fine even though I did have Harold at Yabokies get me a beautiful chunky brick SS. But I very occasionally swap back but usually just for one event b4 I swap back.
So, while I still think my blue Sumo is one of the most sophisticated she beautifully designed divers I own (a lot, and most vintage 60s-70s) The bezel is still the nicest bezel I can think of and as you said, the alternating Polish and brush and twisted lugs are just perfect. I always thought the$500 price tag was paying for unique design Rather then the more iconic Seiko divers. Yes, it was pricey back in 2012 considering I had a planet ocean, Doxa, Six (3) Monster, Ecozilla and another dozen 50s-60s divers. Never regretted it though. The 6r15 is still running far better then spec. but I just remember on watchuseek there were a lot of guys who could not deal with the 20mm bracelet. the very similar Citizen EcoDrive Pro Diver 200m has an almost identical bracelet and while not a elegant as the Sumo it also has taken flack for the 20mm but again, the lugs are 20 but the first link is 22. I also switched that not because of the 20mm. It had the proprietary rubber silicon strap similar to the Ecozilla and I have a quirk about divers having to be on SS. So Sumo and citizen eco drive both enjoy chunky nicely finished SS after market where each were able to incorporate the brand name clasps.
The other big complaint was the Hardlex crystal which guys thought was pretty cheap of Seiko considering the $500+ cost not using Sapphire was a definite con for many. (and my biggest issue is after over a decade of tough use my Hardlex has one nasty scratch. I can’t decide whether to leave it to age out and get a new Gene or just get the sapphire and not the Gen 3. (oh, such decisions)
Excellent work!
Thank you!
I am extremely amused once again. Ya’ll make Mondays so much more manageable. Keep up the good work.
Hey, dude – lol super happy to hear that! Glad you’re still digging the show and that you liked this Seiko Sumo review – thought the haiku theme would make it more fun while also keeping the reading experience efficient.
I really enjoyed this style of review, especiually for a Japanese watch. I imagined movie scene with a drunken Samurai drinking Saki while reading your haikus… Near the end, he gets mad, draws his sword and cuts a Rolex from the wrist of a Gaijin. The Rolex hits the floor. The victim keeps his hand but looks incredulous. The katana is re-sheathed. The samurai orders mor saki! Then you hear a gong sound. Roll the credits… ha ha
Kaz, nice work.
Love my blumo.
It’s almost too fancy. I may need to try a different strap to chill it out.
Tempted to get one of those crafters blue rubber straps for mine as they are designed for the sumo.
I love mine a-lot
I want to get one in black
Older better No X
I bought my 2nd gen Sumo on 2018 according to the serial… And I hardly ever change watches anymore… It is plently dressy to wear to a wedding and it is a perfect tool for a sportsman and that little bit of style the casing is built with to me is perfection in a watch… I even love the stamped clasp… In fact I put a machined on for a while and it just felt bulky, so I took it back off and put the original on… Mine is black and I am getting ready to buy a blue one and I think I am going to stay in the 2nd generation…. Maybe I was just lucky or I move so much it isn’t affected but watch picked up a total of 1 minute and 12 seconds over a one month period… When I saw one in person I knew it was the watch for my big wrist…. I love how much mass i sin the watch and yet the bezel kind of sits down in the body so it’s not bulking… The design to me is in a word ruggedly elegant. I am rough on my watches and I could have used a sapphire crystal but on it buy one
really has to look for the marks on my hardlex crystal… I have a TAG Aquaracer Calibre 15 but I find I generally never prefer it to my Sumo…